Halo CE to Xbox Conversions

[DoorM4n]

If I posted any Halo CE to Xbox Conversions, would anyone play them? I would make a single thread with a running list.

Or I could ask if anyone would value them? haha

[Ogrish]

Okay first off, i didnt know this was ever achieved.
Second, how was it done.
third, if custom sbsp maps from CE can be converted to xbox, ill will get back into serious modding.

Last, if this is possible, why hasnt Twinreaper been converting his maps.

[DoorM4n]

Well, you do know that this is from Halo 1 CE to Halo 1 Xbox, right? If so, then I'll continue to answer your questions.

[Ogrish]

Lol i was thinking Halo2, i didnt think the conversions to H1 xbox worked well either.

[DoorM4n]

haha, sorry about the confusion. I know how to get them working pretty well. I am just making maps, and for people who don't have Halo PC/CE, it would be a good way to get people to play them.

[OwnZ joO]

I would play them if they're good competitive maps for sure. Halo 1 is my favorite out of all the halos so I love it. You know how to use Arsenic to convert them? I've converted a couple for myself so I can help you out if you can't find a howto anywhere. I know you have magic, but I'm not sure if that works on all maps or not, not that Arsenic is a silver bullet or anything though.

[DoorM4n]

Awesome. I do have magic and I have been fiddling around with that. I am officially banned from halomaps, where the tutorials are located for Arsenic. I do not want to waste too much time fiddling around trying to make Arsenic work, unless I had the tutorials from the Arsenic thread. Is there any chance you could post the tutorials here? Or if you want to give me a quick paraphrasing of the tutorials here, that would be awesome!

[cain532]

I would definitely love to play some Halo CE maps on Xbox I've still been working on converting a few, so far I managed to get YoYoRast Island, and Launch Bay X, sad to say Launch Bay X has some issues that I'm not sure how to work around :/ Been working on getting New Mombasa Classic working, but that one is being quite troublesome. And now sadly I don't havec a second Xbox controller to test these maps out with so I'm at a bit of a stand still :/

Doorm4n, I made an FTP server wtih some Halo editing stuff, including Magic and all the Halo 1 maps in cache format. ( I have Launch Bay X and YoYoRast in there, pretty sure I've changed the internal name on both (Launch Bay is Battlecreek and YoYoRast is Wizard) but can't remember if those are the ones on my server. If you'd be willing to check them out I'd appreciate it Maybe we could work together? Two heads are better than one?

[OwnZ joO]

Yeah, it's pretty simple with Arsenic, you extract all the tags from xbox original maps and then basically open the map you want to convert, load the scnr tag, and export as a CE compressed file. It gives me an error after selecting a scnr and doesn't display the map in the viewer, but I have converted a couple maps.

[cain532]

I downloaded Arsenic, when it updated it wouldn't open :/ I updated my .net framework, then found that I had to get a SlimDX or something file, I downloaded that, installed it and still can't quite get it to work.

[DoorM4n]

OwnZ, how do you extract all? I don't see a button for that.

And cain, go download the SLimDX version from November 2008. That is the one you need. The one you may have downloaded is March 2009.

[cain532]

Alright, did all that, got the 2008 November SlimDX, and it's working, relatively...however every time I try to load a scn, it gives me an error, and when I try to export a map as a compressed Xbox map, I get an error, hearing such things on forums, I ignored them and went on about my business....It's been stuck on the same file for about an hour now :/ so my best assumption is that I did something wrong.

[DoorM4n]

Yeah, I don't know why Arsenic sucks so much.

[cain532]

I'm gonna try it on my Vista based computer and see if I have any luck :/ I keep getting a DirectX error on my XP machine

[DoorM4n]

you need to download direct X then

[cain532]

Already downloaded the latest module of Direct X for XP as well as Vista and received the same error on both machines

[OwnZ joO]

Arsenic doesn't suck, it could just definitely work better.

[DoorM4n]

Arsenic doesn't suck, it could just definitely work better.

Yeah, you are definitely right there. I've been frustrated because I can't get CE conversions to work. Have you done it before OwnZ?

[Ogrish]

Harbinger converts ce maps halo 1 but i think it only worked for mac.
Pearl converts maps too but I think it converted from H1or CE to the demo version.

[OwnZ joO]

Yeah, I've done probably about 5 or so. I'd have to crack open the program and do another in order to explain how to do it again. It was pretty straightforward once I did a couple, just gotta ignore some errors and know that it's working well lol. I think only 1 map I tried to convert didn't work, and it coulda been something besides arsenic just being crappy too.

[DoorM4n]

Well, I use magic and it converts plenty of maps. I can't get Arsenic to convert at all. Does Arsenic usually convert more maps than Magic?

[OwnZ joO]

I've only tried once with magic since you sent it to me and it didn't work, I musta done something wrong.

[cain532]

I've had problems with Magic as well tried to follow everything to the letter as far as pulling all the Halo 1 cache maps, the only map I can get to work is YoYorast, I've tried quite a few but that's the only one that works...

[DoorM4n]

Magic is awfully difficult to setup and the instructions are not clear. Here is what to do:

New Official Magic Setup Tutorial
1. Setup Halo PC and CE and Halo Editing Kit

2. Make a Magic Folder with the Application. Inside that folder, make 3 folders: Halo CE Maps and Halo Xbox Cache Maps and Magic Tags (Halo Cache maps are not the same as Halo Decompressed maps. You have to play every map on the disc, go to your XYZ folders on your Xbox HDD, and take out the cache001, cache 2, cache003, cache004, cache005 maps that are there and open them in Halo Hacker Tool and then simply change the name of the cache map to the appropriate map name by simply right clicking the file and renaming. All of the MP maps will have the EXACT same file size--down to the kilobytes. All of the SP maps will have the EXACT same file size down to the kilobytes. The ui.map is the smallest map size. You need all of these maps in the Halo Cache Maps folder--not decompressed, but cached from your Halo Xbox XYZ files.) There are 24 Halo cached map files needed.

3. Then bitmaps.map and sounds.map from your Halo CE maps folder need to go in the Halo CE Maps folder.

4. Go into the Halo CE folder and copy the Tags folder. Go to the Magic Tags folder that you created and paste the folder into the Magic Tags folder. Once that is done, you should have a folder with "Magic Tags>tags."

5. Go to Settings in Magic: Select the Xbox Cache maps folder, then the Halo CE maps folder, and then when it asks for TAGS folder, select Magic Tags! Do not select the tags folder in the Magic tags folder!

6. Once you set the settings up, go to the "Magic Tags>tags>globals" folder and copy and paste globals.globals and rename the copy to multiplayer.globals.

7. Now select Extract All and that will finish in about 10-20 min.

8. Once it is done finishing the Extract All process, go into "Magic Tags>globals" and make sure you have both globals.globals and multiplayer.globals. If you do, then use CLuis' explanation on to convert maps! His tutorial is in the Magic folder Readme.

9. Enjoy!

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So, someone please tell me how to setup Arsenic to convert maps. Please!

[cain532]

I re-extracted ALL the cache maps, I may have just gotten a bad cache dump :/ I'm more than willing to upload them to my FTP server, if anyone would like to download them I can make them a temporary account. I'll get back to you guys with my results after I dump everything using Magic


Alright, I converted New Mombasa Classic, Launch Bay X and Fox Island, I don't have a spare controller, so would anybody be willing to test these out for me?